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What do you mean by "stealing stuff"?

Say that you wanted to repost a photo that someone left in the comment section. Or perhaps there was a series of diaries with a whole bunch of links that you wanted to use for your own diary in that series.

In the past, I actually would go through the trouble of downloading the photo to my hard drive, then uploading it to my own Flickr page, then copying and pasting the new HTML code. Kinda clunky all that. Takes 3 to 4 mins that could have been more wisely used.

Thanks to a friend at this here website, I learned the magic trick that eliminates the need for all that old skool rigmarole.

Are you ready?
Welcome to



With the mere click of 2 keys, you can instantly see the HTML for any given website.
(Forgive me if you have known about this for years. I am slow on the nerd uptake much of the time.)

Once you see the gobbledegook of whatever comment or page you were hoping to steal, it is then up to you to try and decipher which part you wanted. An easy way to bypass that potential headache is to copy the whole darn mess, and then start randomly nixing stuff (CTRL X) starting at the top until you have lost the part you wanted. Then go back and paste what you lost and lose all the rest.


WTF are you talking about, dude?
I need an example.

OK then!

Say you like polar bears (real ones, not just Ukrainian beanie babies).

You see a cute one in a comment in some random diary, and you want to steal borrow that picture and post it in the daily pootie diary to garner huge mojo for all the critter lovers.

You click the comment (less HTML is more, need I explain?)

And then CTRL U that sonofagun.

You will see a long slew of messiness that starts with the Daily Kos header.

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-W3CDTD XHTML 1.0 Strict/EN" "">

Skip down about 10 "Page Downs" and you get to this:


 <div class="ct">


<p><img src=" width="240" height="155" alt="knut1441" align="right" />
<p>I wanted to believe it was real.
<p>Here is <a href="">a real one for people who like reality,


Inside all that is the comment with all its nerdy HTML goodness. For the image alone, seek out the part that begins "img"
<img src=" width="240" height="155" alt="knut1441" align="right" />

Copy that one little bit and you are golden.

Ta Da!

Happy Pilfering!

 * Note:
This shortcut works with Firefox and Chrome with Windows, but not guaranteed to work with all browsers. Mac users should know that CTRL is not CTRL on a Mac for some reason. Use that little flowery extra key { ⌘ } that only Mac deems necessary for all shortcuts. I can only hope this trick works for you too.

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Originally posted to Welcome New Users on Mon Mar 12, 2012 at 01:33 PM PDT.

Also republished by DKOMA, Street Prophets , and Community Spotlight.

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